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Creating a nation for your folks after your ancestors destroyed,

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imperialised,

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raped,

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And what about the rape in the USA? There are over THRITY THOUSAND cases of Black-on-White rape a year, yet usually LESS THAN TEN cases of White-on-Black rape.

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massacred

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Then, the Whites attacked the FORMING armies with their allies - and they won.

Montezuma, the Aztec leader, thought the Whites were gods. When they arrived (Cortez and only a few hundred soldiers) they were invited into the city.

A fight eventually broke out between a few Aztec preists and a few Whites - which escalated into a large battle. Cortez and his soldiers ushered Montezuma into a building and told him to make them stop attacking - and they threw stones at the emperor, killing him a few days later.
Then, they escaped, planned an invasion (with the neighboring tribes) and took over Tenochtitlan.

Massacre? More like fighting back...

What about the Amerinds in the USA? Well, that was only really 6% of the Amerind population at the time, and many died from disease (What were the Whites going to do? They weren't aware of genetic immunities) and attacking Whites.

The Austrailians were even worse. Barely out of the Stone Age, they just attacked and attacked and attacked. The Austrailians themselves said they were less organized than children.

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and stole land from non white nations.

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Try to restore everything, before the white man took over.

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NON White nations were natural,  pristine, had their own cultures

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and would have developed gradually into a great empire,

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but your ancestors had to mess the natural order of things..

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That's not me.

Do you think Whites should be allowed to live or die?

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Science has done more than enough.
Don't be daft, please.
Even on a WN, it looks retarded.

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My ancestors.

That's not me.

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You have proof that in this case their white brain had MORE influence than any of the OTHER factors I listed?  

Other White brains have been working on the same problem for years and none of them succeeded.

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Not all brains are the same - even in race.

As you said - there is a lot of variation INSIDE of race.

Nevertheless, he got his genetics from his ancestors.

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And Whites have made ME who I am.

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If WN can be proud of what their ancestors have done then they have to own up everything their ancestors have done INCLUDING slavery and not "that's my ancestors that's not me" like some lame-o

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"Everyone helpin' each other whenever they can we makin' it happen, from nothin' to somethin'
That's how we be survivin'" - BEP

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I thought WN defined themselves by what their ancestors have done.

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But, WN's usually define themselves as the RACE of their ancestors - and they love their race and want it to stay alive - so when they are ancestors, their childrens childrens children can say that they are the same race as them.

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If WN can be proud of what their ancestors have done then they have to own up everything their ancestors have done INCLUDING slavery and not "that's my ancestors that's not me" like some lame-o

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I believe we shouldn't have to repay Blacks for enslaving them (Muslims would have to pay Whites too).

But, then again, nonWhites shouldn't have to pay US for White inventions and the like.

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"If you worship your enemy, you are defeated.
If you adopt your enemy's religion you are enslaved.
If you breed with your enemy you are destroyed."
-Polydoros

Then they must also proud of the slavery whites have done and not use the lame excuse

"It's my ancestors it's not me"  

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That's how we be survivin'" - BEP

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Then they must also proud of the slavery whites have done

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Why does slavery usually refer to White on Black - slavery has existed in all races?

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"If you worship your enemy, you are defeated.
If you adopt your enemy's religion you are enslaved.
If you breed with your enemy you are destroyed."
-Polydoros

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"I am proud of what my ancestors have done unlees it is things that I don't like then I say it was just my ancestors not me"

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I am proud of the great things my ancestors have done, as I've said.

I KNOW they've done "Bad" things - but you can't be proud of something bad, can you?

They are as much a part of me as the good they did - no shit.

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"If you worship your enemy, you are defeated.
If you adopt your enemy's religion you are enslaved.
If you breed with your enemy you are destroyed."
-Polydoros

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Quote: from jakelong at 9:02 pm on Nov. 16, 2008

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"I am proud of what my ancestors have done unlees it is things that I don't like then I say it was just my ancestors not me"  

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I never said any of it was me!

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A lot of the stuff you find on Stormfront is awfully wacky.  I particularly dislike how they talk about other races and groups as if they are organized into a collective ideal, often talking about all of "black people," "Asian people," and "Jews" as if they're all some single organization with non-varying interests among its individual members out to get whites.

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You're generalising. The people on Stormfront aren't clones, they encompass a wide variety of opinions.

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You're generalising. The people on Stormfront aren't clones, they encompass a wide variety of opinions.

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I know that. However, it's impossible to talk about what's generally spoken of on Stormfront without generalizing to some degree.

You did leave out the part of my post where I clued you in that what I'm referring to doesn't apply to every single Stormfront member:

Quote: from Bud2400 at 12:41 am on Nov. 15, 2008

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It's a sign that many members on Stormfront cannot see outside their own perception, as white nationalism often presents itself as an ideal to strive for where all its members are homogeneous in every way.

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No single organization is so united in every individual's interests that there is no divergence in opinions, white nationalism included. However, you cannot deny that white nationalism advocates homogeneity, primarily in terms of race, but more broadly, everything else that is associated with race (culture, nationality, personal backgrounds, etc.).  Perhaps not directly to all of those, but it's certainly an effect, and generally taken to be a desired effect by those who advocate it.

Post edited at 7:24 pm on Nov. 16, 2008 by Bud2400

Asians and whites have invented almost everything in the world. Whites have built the greatest civilization in the history of the human race. The Asians have not made same success because they are physically inferior than we, but they have invented/done so many things that it's uncountable.

Latinos - They had the maya and the aztek's, great civilizations in it's era.

The negro race - They have broken all crime charts. They have...Obama.....*awkward silence*.

Stormfront is a community for patriots. Patriots like Jefferson, George Washington, Patton, MacArthur. They all supported our views, they certainly didn't like breeding with inferior races and they were true patriots. Don't mix stormfront with neo-cons, we don't support the war in Iraq. I my self am a World wide nationalist, history has proven it self. Races are best with their own.

Generalizing? No. Truth.

And Stormfront is as much about white supremacy as it is survival. Everyone there is just a little nuts..

"Preservation of our great race" - what a load of bullshit.

We don't give a shit whether you want the white race to continue to survive or not - that's your own business.

But seriously.. The racial hate on communities such as StormFront is mind-boggling. And they don't accept criticism well either - I joined on there not too long and expressed my opinion (that the white race combining with others is not necessarily a bad thing - nor is it really "extinction") and I was banned. No warning, no argument, nothing.

Dedicated Stormfront members are over-zealous, racist nonces. All of them.

Not generalising.

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The negro race - They have broken all crime charts. They have...Obama.....*awkward silence*.

Stormfront is a community for patriots. Patriots like Jefferson, George Washington, Patton, MacArthur. They all supported our views, they certainly didn't like breeding with inferior races and they were true patriots. Don't mix stormfront with neo-cons, we don't support the war in Iraq. I my self am a World wide nationalist, history has proven it self. Races are best with their own.

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Go back from whence you came you vile Stormfront scum

As soon as you start throwing around remarks like "inferior races", we know we can't take you seriously.

And just for the record: it is not the achievements of a race that defines it. It is the achievements of humanity that defines every race.

Whites were originally black.

Assimilation is inevitable and good.

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Asian - 115 iq
White - 100 iq
Latino - 90 iq
Negro - 80 iq

Asians and whites have invented almost everything in the world. Whites have built the greatest civilization in the history of the human race. The Asians have not made same success because they are physically inferior than we, but they have invented/done so many things that it's uncountable.

Latinos - They had the maya and the aztek's, great civilizations in it's era.  

The negro race - They have broken all crime charts. They have...Obama.....*awkward silence*.

Stormfront is a community for patriots. Patriots like Jefferson, George Washington, Patton, MacArthur. They all supported our views, they certainly didn't like breeding with inferior races and they were true patriots. Don't mix stormfront with neo-cons, we don't support the war in Iraq. I my self am a World wide nationalist, history has proven it self. Races are best with their own.

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The verbal and the performance are the most expensive abilities in the brain, meaning that if you use all your credit in one of them, you will not have much credit left for the other one. Math ability is much more flexible (much cheaper for the brain) than verbal. The ones who score top in verbal score usually moderately in math but the reverse is not true.

And China is right up there with Rome, Greece, Sumer, Egypt, India, and post-Renaissance Europe, I agree.

The Latinos - I assume you're speaking of AMERINDS.

The Aztec and Mayan empires were great compared to that of the Amerinds in North America, but they lacked the Wheel, and many other things.They produced great buildings, images, statues and artifacts which are still wonders to this day and which thoroughly impressed the White explorers who first set eyes on this culture. But, they had cannibalism and other shocking 'Surprises' for the Conquistadors.

Also, the IQ of the Amerind is is 87

Africa... Not really much from the original Africans, but when Arabs and others migrated - something actually happened. The average IQ of the 100% Negro (as opposed to the 30% White Blacks in the USA) is 67.

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"If you worship your enemy, you are defeated.
If you adopt your enemy's religion you are enslaved.
If you breed with your enemy you are destroyed."
-Polydoros