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Replies: 32Last Post Nov. 25, 2008 5:20pm by tell me again
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jakelong


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Actually in that case I read the OP wrong so I'm sorry,

Just tripped on KR and his shit.

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Quote: from kidd rune at 2:14 pm on Nov. 18, 2008

Australoids have the highest crime rates of any race worldwide.


How are they Australoids?  The Maoris came to New Zealand around 1000 AD, being a part of the broader Polynesian migrations across the Pacific Islands.  Australian Aborigines came to Australia long before that and are rather distinct from the Polynesians (who are related more so to the Filipinos and Southeastern Asians than any other group).


Quote: from Seafercat at 1:55 pm on Nov. 18, 2008


Occurs in New Zealand in Maori people at around twice the rate as it does in Non Maori (AKA mostly White New Zealanders).

It's funny how this is never mentioned on the news etc, even after the people just got convicted for the last murder of a child -- she was abused overa number of months until she finally died.

I personally think the Maori situation needs to be addressed before more children die, but this is seen as racism, right?



Eh, people who twist these kinds of statistics as "racist" are only looking for a fight.  They're not worth the consideration, to be honest, as there's really no right way when it comes to addressing anything mildly related to race to these people.  They can't seem to comprehend the difference between a statistic and stereotype, and as a result, they wind up fusing both as almost synonymous, as if by mentioning a statistic, you're saying that this is true for every individual of that group.

I've heard of stuff like this occurring among the natives of Brazil and the Aborigines of Australia, too, though you do hear very little of it.  Many would link this sort of thing to poverty (as I do believe all three of those groups tend to be more impoverished than the other groups in those countries).  So the question is whether you think it's a race or socioeconomic issue, and how would you go about addressing it?


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kidd rune


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How are they Australoids?  The Maoris came to New Zealand around 1000 AD, being a part of the broader Polynesian migrations across the Pacific Islands.  Australian Aborigines came to Australia long before that and are rather distinct from the Polynesians (who are related more so to the Filipinos and Southeastern Asians than any other group).
They are Micronesian-Polynesians.
They are Australoid Melanesian with Southern Mongoloid admixture.

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jakelong


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lol@ ridiculous attempt to put ppl in racial category ven if it doesn't fit.

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Quote: from jakelong at 8:25 pm on Nov. 20, 2008

lol@ ridiculous attempt to put ppl in racial category ven if it doesn't fit.
It does fit.

They are mixed Mongoloid and Australoid - yet they are predominantly Australoid, therefore they are group under the Australoids (homogenously mixed though).

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jakelong


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They are also aryans!!!


Maori spoken in New Zealand, and also the earlier Moriori tongues, also form part of the Malaop-Polynesian group, and are related to Indonesian (Bahasa), just as English and Hindi are related through the (younger) Northern Sanskrit languages which formed the Indo-European family.



http://www.geocities.com/riThe Maori also share the S. Indian flood tales, associated with Agastya. According to Bhagavata - Manu Satyavrata was a Dravida (S.Indian) King that sailed into Himalayas after the last flood, along with the Rishis. Dravida lands include Gujerat and Tamil Nadu - where ancient Kingdoms, some 7000 years old have recently been found under the waters.

The Maori tale states Maui (counterpart of Manu) pulled New Zealand out of the sea in the form of a Fish - relating to the Vedic tale of Manu and the fish, Matsya, who saved him. Maori, hence, also trace back to Manu Satyavrata - linking them, once again to Vedic mythology and Asia.

The Supreme of Maori society was known as "Ariki", which meant Chief, Leader or Priest. It can hence be related to the term for Vedic Kshatriyas (warriors) and Brahmins (priests) - 'Arya' or Aryan, which denoted a noble - a common term used to denote the great Vedic peoples.


http://www.geocities.com/rigvedsamhita/vedicnz.htm

http://www.ethnomath.org/resources/tregear1885.pdf
 

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They are also aryans!!!
No.

They had an Aryan influence (India) but what makes you think they're Aryan? What distorted definition are you using?

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jakelong


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Read the link and the quoted text. It really helps when you try to argue something.

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Quote: from jakelong at 10:55 pm on Nov. 21, 2008

Read the link and the quoted text. It really helps when you try to argue something.
Then it's just the linguistic definiton - my exact thoughts.

Aryans? Nope.

Aryan influence? Probably.

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jakelong


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They might be the real Aryans.
Aryan language --> Aryans



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Quote: from jakelong at 12:09 am on Nov. 22, 2008

They might be the real Aryans.  
Aryan language --> Aryans

 


Genetics aren't passed by language...

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If you adopt your enemy's religion you are enslaved.
If you breed with your enemy you are destroyed."
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jakelong


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How do we know it does not include genetics?

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Quote: from jakelong at 12:23 am on Nov. 22, 2008

How do we know it does not include genetics?
Language is spread by speech...

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If you adopt your enemy's religion you are enslaved.
If you breed with your enemy you are destroyed."
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jakelong


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How do we know the Moaris are not genetically the real Aryans?

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Quote: from jakelong at 12:40 am on Nov. 22, 2008

How do we know the Moaris are not genetically the real Aryans?
Are you just asking that to ask or do you actually want to know...

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If you adopt your enemy's religion you are enslaved.
If you breed with your enemy you are destroyed."
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