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77% of Whites think they must be preserved
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Quote: from kidd rune at 10:12 pm on Nov. 17, 2008

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Quote: from kidd rune at 9:33 pm on Nov. 17, 2008

 
 

What exactly do you mean by 'MUCH more than that'?
 
 Race is more than just skin deep.
  If it wasn't - I would cease being a White Nationalist.
 

 

 This is, I think, the third time that you have said that it is more than skin deep. But what I am asking all the time is what makes it 'more than skin deep'. Answer please.


There are many differences apart from skin.

Their hair is it is flat and elliptical with no central canal or duct like White hair - and is also whooly (or nappy) in texture.

Their nose is nose is thick, broad, and flat - unlike that of Whites.

Their arms and legs are relatively longer than Whites. The humerus is a trifle shorter and the forearm is longer.

Their eyes are prominent, iris black and the orbits large.

Want more differences?


I'll guess that by 'them' you mean all other races. But still, this is all looks. I don't see why would looks be a basis of a one race nation.

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I'll guess that by 'them' you mean all other races. But still, this is all looks. I don't see why would looks be a basis of a one race nation.
I only named looks.
And I was naming White-Black differences.


But, there are brain differences too - as well as cultural differences.


Do you not understand WHY we want to preserve Whites?

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Quote: from kidd rune at 10:49 pm on Nov. 17, 2008


I'll guess that by 'them' you mean all other races. But still, this is all looks. I don't see why would looks be a basis of a one race nation.
I only named looks.  
And I was naming White-Black differences.  


But, there are brain differences too - as well as cultural differences.  


Do you not understand WHY we want to preserve Whites?


No, I don't. Except if you want to make this a giant museum project. And also, provide me a proof that there are brain differences that are significant enough to be a basis of a political movement.
As far as the culture goes - cultures are influenced by many variables. Geographical location, neighboring cultures, main source of resources (war, industry, or something else), etc. I don't see race being a significant part of it. Also, why do you think that whites have a single culture. White people have a mixture of cultures. But, yet again, I don't see that as a basis for a major political movement.

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No, I don't. Except if you want to make this a giant museum project. And also, provide me a proof that there are brain differences that are significant enough to be a basis of a political movement.
Well, it matters what you think IS significant enough.

The fact that different races exists should make it significant enough to be able to preserve them.

And for the brain differences, you won't get much info on that due to that being a "Racist" study. But, look up the studies of Bean, Pearl, Vint, Tilney, Gordon, Todd and many, many others - all concluding that Brain size and functionality is greatly linked to genetics, many times race having an impact.



As far as the culture goes - cultures are influenced by many variables. Geographical location, neighboring cultures, main source of resources (war, industry, or something else), etc. I don't see race being a significant part of it. Also, why do you think that whites have a single culture. White people have a mixture of cultures. But, yet again, I don't see that as a basis for a major political movement.
Many cultures that have more in common than others.


Let me get this staight, you agree with:"Why does a persons race matter," "Content of Character," "Why should races be preserved, we're all just humans," etc?

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Quote: from kidd rune at 11:33 pm on Nov. 17, 2008

Let me get this staight, you agree with:"Why does a persons race matter," "Content of Character," "Why should races be preserved, we're all just humans," etc?

I don't see why I wouldn't agree with that. Except for the last one: I would rather say that I don't find 'mixing' a bad thing.

Also, I don't find what you have said to be significant enough. Sure. Maybe whites are more intelligent. But still, 99% of them are barely going to use their brain, and will take anything that is served to them, so I don't see a significant difference there. As far as the culture goes, you could make up cultural groups based on anything: religion, geographical location, race(as you said), language, etc. Just about anything. So I don't find that as a significant factor either.

But, why do you feel that race should be a basis for a nation (white only nation, that you mentioned) ?

Post edited at 3:28 pm on Nov. 17, 2008 by JohnTheNormalOne

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Arent u killing the mixed race by preserving all the others?

There is no "Mixed race" biologically.  

Mixed is not a race - just a collection of 2 or more races.



ok if they arent a "race".
but ur still killing that group of people exactly the same as u would be killing the white race

whys the white race better than that group of people??



u not answer this

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u not answer this
They aren't a unique people. I wouldn't be killing people as they can reproduce with other mixed people - and thus have many mixed people and that mixed is not a race.
A mixed and White create a mixed.

And I didn't say Whites were better...



I don't see why I wouldn't agree with that. Except for the last one: I would rather say that I don't find 'mixing' a bad thing.

But, why do you feel that race should be a basis for a nation (white only nation, that you mentioned) ?


It shouldn't be a basis just to be a basis - but we should do whatever we can to preserve the various beatiful races of the Earth - and creating a nation to preserve them seems to be a good, NONVIOLENT choice.

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u not answer this
They aren't a unique people. I wouldn't be killing people as they can reproduce with other mixed people - and thus have many mixed people and that mixed is not a race.
A mixed and White create a mixed.

And I didn't say Whites were better...

 


I don't see why I wouldn't agree with that. Except for the last one: I would rather say that I don't find 'mixing' a bad thing.  

But, why do you feel that race should be a basis for a nation (white only nation, that you mentioned) ?


It shouldn't be a basis just to be a basis - but we should do whatever we can to preserve the various beatiful races of the Earth - and creating a nation to preserve them seems to be a good, NONVIOLENT choice.

But, again, I get the impression that you are arguing that there should be a one race only nations only because you want to preserve them, in something that looks like a giant museum (or more like a zoo) project. I just don't think there should be a nation that is based on looks of people. Because I am not convinced that there is a significant difference in any other fields, except from the looks.
Also, where would you put that nation? Earth is already crowded. So unless you want to move to Antarctica, I don't see a reasonable non-violent way of establishing such a nation.

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u not answer this
They aren't a unique people. I wouldn't be killing people as they can reproduce with other mixed people - and thus have many mixed people and that mixed is not a race.
A mixed and White create a mixed.

And I didn't say Whites were better...

 


I don't see why I wouldn't agree with that. Except for the last one: I would rather say that I don't find 'mixing' a bad thing.  

But, why do you feel that race should be a basis for a nation (white only nation, that you mentioned) ?


It shouldn't be a basis just to be a basis - but we should do whatever we can to preserve the various beatiful races of the Earth - and creating a nation to preserve them seems to be a good, NONVIOLENT choice.


mixed people are just as unique as white or black people
also if mixed people only reproduce with other mixed then you are still killing a mixed people just a different race

white+black mixed person isnt the same as a white and white and black mixed person

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But, again, I get the impression that you are arguing that there should be a one race only nations only because you want to preserve them, in something that looks like a giant museum (or more like a zoo) project. I just don't think there should be a nation that is based on looks of people. Because I am not convinced that there is a significant difference in any other fields, except from the looks.
Then I encourage you to read.
http://tinyurl.com/6ceqc5
or the PDF version:
http://www.mediafire.com/?fmjgjvajrzz

And the whole "Skin color" fallacy I'm sure is very comforting to the Jews suffering from Tay-Sachs disease, to Blacks enduring sickle cell anemia, and to Amerinds battling alcoholism. Because, as you know, that's all due to skin!


Are you a Christian? Well, if so, I can put it this way for you:
If you think that humans should mix up because they're all just "Humans" - you're mistaken.

I see evolution and look at it as beauty. I do not believe none of these differences are "Human formed" and "not sacred" - as that is the train of thought of a communist, something I am highly opposed to.

When I see the variation among human races, I see the brush strokes of evolution, God, or whatever you wish to believe.
Every layer of paint, each a different color, coming together to form a beautiful painting that has been created for us, our children, our grand children, and their grand children to adore, love, and view for generations to come.
It's a big, beautiful picture - with all of the history, events, and characteristics that create what we refer to as "Earth."

If God/evolution/both created this magnificent, colorful, diverse world - why would he want it all to intermix?

If God/evolution/both created Black and White - wouldn't there be a REASON to have Black and White?
If there was no purpose for the differences and separations between races, would there be any purpose for them to exist?

Many people call me "Racist, ignorant, and arrogant" for wanting Whites to exist - but taking all that is so firmly founded over so many years and turning it on it's head in only a small time, for no apparent benefit or reason, strikes ME as ignorant and arrogant.

Why take a beautiful, colorful painting and replace it with one color, smudged indefinitely around creating what is far from a masterpiece?



Also, where would you put that nation? Earth is already crowded. So unless you want to move to Antarctica, I don't see a reasonable non-violent way of establishing such a nation.
Whites evolved in Europe and the surrounding area.

Just because other people live in a nation doesn't mean the only way for them to leave is violently.

You can kindly ask them to leave, pay them to get going, etc.

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mixed people are just as unique as white or black people
Mixed can mean many things. White and Black. Black and Yellow. White and Yellow. White, Black, and Yellow.

There can be million of combinations.


also if mixed people only reproduce with other mixed then you are still killing a mixed people just a different race
Mixed people aren't dying out as they are creating mixed people.


white+black mixed person isnt the same as a white and white and black mixed person
But they're still mixed.

A child with two White grandparents and two Black grandparents can be 50% White and 50% Black - or 20% White and 80% Black.

Genetics are randomly distrubuted.


A White and White always make a White - and a Black and Black always make a Black.

A mixed parent always creates a mixed child - no matter WHO they mix with, and any parent that chooses to mix with another race ALSO always has a mixed child.


But you're probably thinking ALL Whites will be put into this White nation. This is not so - only those who wish to be there will be.

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For a little over a year or so, I was caught into the nationalism thing. Black Nationalism that is.

All of these "books" for any nationalism. Are for the most part are biased out the ass. I have books that speak of blacks being superior. I have some books that speak of Mullatoes as white. I have books that show that there were Black civilizations that were great, greater than white counter parts. That blacks, had superior means in science. I have books that show that they came to the Americas, before columbus. That show blacks invented great machinery, and whites stole the credit.

These white nationalist books basically do the same thing. Talk about how great the race is.

If you honestly believe that if there was proof that showed that so many jews died, there wouldn't be denial. That's a load of shit. There are people who deny evolution, regardless of evidence. There is supposed truth of "god", but people like me deny it all the time. There's a lot against the bible, yet people believe it.

Killing all whites, and allowing whites to have families with non-whites, are 2 very different things. If it was truly so much more than just skin color, and whites were actually so much superior, there wouldn't be any stupid white people. There wouldn't be any white people in the ghetto. All white people would be amazing in every field.

The accomplishments of Artists, Inventors, Scientists, Athletes, Political Leaders, War heroes, etc....of all skin tones, religions, countries. They won't go forgotten because of interracial couples. How do I know this? History. Not a lesson of the past, but what "History" is. These documentations will not be gone because of white people fucking black people. To say that it will is crazy talk.

They can still hold the traditions of their ancestry, and create new ones. This is what humans do, we create new traditions, celebrations. How many people still have Huge feasts, then intentionally vomit to make room for more food, then have massive gay orgies, and beat their wives. All for a pagan holiday? I don't know of anyone doing this today.

I have Muslim, and Jewish friends, that celebrate Christmas. Hell one of the families even has a little manger, with baby Jesus. They do it for fun. My town has Celtic festivals, and people of all races go to join. I have white, hispanic, asian, and black friends that Celebrate Kwanzaa together.

Dwelling, and cherishing the past so much. Does honor the ancestors....to an extent. However it stunts our growth.

I've read through a lot of Storm Front. A great majority of what I read there. Is White supremacy, and hatred for other races. There are only a handful of people that don't "hate other races", but then they usually go onto say as long as they aren't a certain way. Such as militant, flaunt their ethnicity, act in a stereotypical way.  the "flaunt their ethnicity" part really had me laugh, so these white nationalists are fine with non-whites as long as they aren't proud of their race.

I've read in the "Activism" threads. That people want to go out, and make little pamphlets that will interest whites. They continue to say that they're just "pro-white", and are like the NAACP. Then after they've gotten interested, ease their true motives to them. WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT? "true motives"?

White Nationalism is really just White Supremacy with lipstick. There's a thread dedicated to hitler, Nazi's love it. A lot of people sport hitler quotes, they have "88", and other crap in their screen names, and their signatures.

Saying that white nationalism isn't white supremacy. Is basically saying Intelligent Design, isn't Creationism. They've basically just replaced a word.

Nazi's in America are fucking hilarious. Especially when they go onto talk about patriotism, and how they had arabs, and islamics because we're at war with them. I guess they forgot, that America fought a war against Hitler, and the Nazi's. These Nazi Faggots, can get the fuck out my country, then die.


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If you honestly believe that if there was proof that showed that so many jews died, there wouldn't be denial. That's a load of shit. There are people who deny evolution, regardless of evidence. There is supposed truth of "god", but people like me deny it all the time. There's a lot against the bible, yet people believe it.


Well, maybe they shouldn't blatantly lie so much.

http://hopelutheranchurch.net/social.php
http://www.toacorn.com/News/2002/1205/Front_Page/007.html
Ebi survived because her future husband used to throw cheese and sausage to her over the fence. Her future husband somehow got the cheese and sausage to throw to her, even though the jews only got 1 bowl of soup for 5 people. It's even more remarkable that her future husband managed to get the sausage and cheese while they were both in the death camp.

Ebi survived 3 other death camps. Below is a picture of Ebi, 3 months after she was liberated from the death camp where she only had a single piece of bread to eat all day.


What about Wolf Girl - she admitted her story was false.
Or the people that claim to have survived over 10 DEATH CAMPS.

Most of the stories just don't fit - and they're STILL used as proof.

I have quite a few books on this - Ebooks and normal books.

If you would like, I'll send you some of the Ebooks so you can check them out and see how valid they are.
They encourage you to check the sources, do the math, etc.



Killing all whites, and allowing whites to have families with non-whites, are 2 very different things. If it was truly so much more than just skin color, and whites were actually so much superior, there wouldn't be any stupid white people. There wouldn't be any white people in the ghetto. All white people would be amazing in every field.


I never said Whites couldn't marry outside of their race - I just think a country should exist for those who wish to be with Whites, to live with Whites, to preserve their race, and to be with their race.

A common misconception is that I want to round up all Whites and force them into one country.

Also, I never said that all Whites are superior.


The accomplishments of Artists, Inventors, Scientists, Athletes, Political Leaders, War heroes, etc....of all skin tones, religions, countries. They won't go forgotten because of interracial couples. How do I know this? History. Not a lesson of the past, but what "History" is. These documentations will not be gone because of white people fucking black people. To say that it will is crazy talk.


Did I say this?
I said that Whites are dying out as a distinct race due to mixing and many other causes. One way to combat this and preserve it is to create a nation for Whites only.
No "White Supremacy" involved.



They can still hold the traditions of their ancestry, and create new ones. This is what humans do, we create new traditions, celebrations. How many people still have Huge feasts, then intentionally vomit to make room for more food, then have massive gay orgies, and beat their wives. All for a pagan holiday? I don't know of anyone doing this today.
There's a difference between some things. A culture gradually evolving as time and technology does isn't bad. When the culture of an area is drastically altered and replaced due to immigration of foreign people is.


I've read through a lot of Storm Front. A great majority of what I read there. Is White supremacy, and hatred for other races. There are only a handful of people that don't "hate other races", but then they usually go onto say as long as they aren't a certain way. Such as militant, flaunt their ethnicity, act in a stereotypical way.  the "flaunt their ethnicity" part really had me laugh, so these white nationalists are fine with non-whites as long as they aren't proud of their race.


Try not to use the average 12 year old on Stormfront to describe White Nationalists.

I don't go there myself really, and many of the msot intelligent people I know that are also White Natioanlists don't either.


I've read in the "Activism" threads. That people want to go out, and make little pamphlets that will interest whites. They continue to say that they're just "pro-white", and are like the NAACP. Then after they've gotten interested, ease their true motives to them. WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT? "true motives"?

White Nationalism is really just White Supremacy with lipstick. There's a thread dedicated to hitler, Nazi's love it. A lot of people sport hitler quotes, they have "88", and other crap in their screen names, and their signatures.


Well, they don't think he was a White Supremacist. Just because YOU don't doesn't mean THEY do.

They think he wanted a nation for only Germanic people - and he did. That's very similar to what they want: A nation for Whites.

I could go on about National Socialism but it's not really relevant.
Hitler isn't synonymous with racism, nor is National Socialism.



Saying that white nationalism isn't white supremacy. Is basically saying Intelligent Design, isn't Creationism. They've basically just replaced a word.
White Nationalism IS NOT WHITE SUPREMACY.

I do admit that some White Nationalists are White Supremacists, big fucking woop. But in the original form, and in my opinion best form, it isn't.



Nazi's in America are fucking hilarious. Especially when they go onto talk about patriotism, and how they had arabs, and islamics because we're at war with them. I guess they forgot, that America fought a war against Hitler, and the Nazi's. These Nazi Faggots, can get the fuck out my country, then die.
Where would they go?
If a White nation exists, would they go there or sit in the USA annoying you.


Maybe you should be a White Nationalist to get the racists out of your country - a White Nationalist believes that a nation should exist for only Whites, the rest of the beliefs are "Optional."

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Nazi Fagots are Nazi Fagots. They can go to atlantis. We can round all of the Nazi Fagots up, and dump them in the ocean. Them floating in the ocean stranded, would make everyone happy.

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Quote: from thetruthteller at 6:17 am on Nov. 17, 2008

some species of horses are more beautiful, smarter and stronger, the same says about the human race.
They are usually "breeds" not species.

Most breeds of domesticated animals are man-made and don't happen in the wild.

When you let dogs breed naturally they usually make mutts!    

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