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77% of Whites think they must be preserved
Replies: 140Last Post Nov. 23, 2008 5:06pm by kidd rune
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Quote: from kidd rune at 6:36 pm on Nov. 19, 2008


No. It was created to be a place for jews to come if they desired to.  
Its not a country just for jews.  
Like I said there are MANY non-jews in israel.


Sure there are.
But the League of Nations approved the British Mandate of Palestine with the intent of creating a "national home for the Jewish people.


Proof?  
They do get immigrants from russia, and eastern europe.

That doesn't make them nonJews.


1) Either? What was the first point?  

2) "And haven't historically"  
lol  

Israel has only existed 60 years.  

3) The palestinians haven't treated the israelis so well. You tend to not be friendly to people who launch rockets at schools and places of worship.


1.The first point was in my other post.
2. Yeah, that's still a bit of history.
3. Jews have killed many Whites - take communism for example. Kaganovich killed 7-10 million Ukrainians. Whites still love Jews so much!


Its still millions of people!  

It doesn't necessarily mean that there are less whites than before, just that other races are reproducing more.  
Also, do I have to point out to you that the jewish people are .02%?!  
8% is A LOT.


Well, I reccommend you fix your Jewish problem - oh, wait, don't you want all cultures and people to mix into one big blob? Disgusting!

And White populations have been falling slightly in the past years - yet are falling more rapidly today.

They are becoming minorities in their own countries.

That's not good. In 70 years, Europe will be 50% nonWhite.


What do you mean?
Whites pay let's say, 70% of taxes - they should be benefitted by 70% of them.


You mean the way all of those poor white people in the middle of the country mooch off the government?
Yes, but it's not proportional.

Check the welfare statistics. Whites aren't 66% of Welfare in the USA - which would be required for equality moneywise.


But you wouldn't would you?  
have you ever advocated for anyones rights other than your race's?

I've never outright advocated them - nor have I really for White rights - but I'd be the first to support an all-Black, all-Mestizo, all-Jewish, all-Amerind, etc nation.

I think it's great.


"Sure there are.
But the League of Nations approved the British Mandate of Palestine with the intent of creating a "national home for the Jewish people. "

lol

You don't know anything about Israel's history.
The british didn't support israel at all.
In fact they regulated immigration to israel, and dumped most of the jews in israel into holding camps, which look remarkably like nazi work camps.
The rest of the jews they kept in places like cyprus for years and years.

The british mandate meant nothing.
They wanted to give the jewish people state after WW1 because the british jewish population helped fight against the turks.

http://www.planetware.com/i/map/ISR/british-mandate-1921-22-and-proposed-partition-1947-map.jpg

They were originally going to give this plot of land, which happens to include all of jordan. After WW2 they lost British support.

Zionists rebelled against the british, and declared themselves a country without anyone's previous support.
The USA openly supported them AFTER they were declared an independent country.

The league of nations resolution was never fulfilled.

"That doesn't make them nonJews. "

Yet its funny how so many of them are non-jews.

"The first point was in my other post. "

You mean the one I told you WASN'T TRUE ON ANY TERMS?

"3. Jews have killed many Whites - take communism for example. Kaganovich killed 7-10 million Ukrainians. Whites still love Jews so "

Its funny how Russia was one of those countries which headed pogroms against the jews.

http://www.pbs.org/destinationamerica/usim_wn_noflash_6.html

It wasn't a jewish massacure against other people.
It was one leaders attack against other people.

If you can find me one thing that Kaganovich did FOR THE JEWS then I will read it.

You just like saying HE'S JEWISH HE'S JEWISH.
How do you know that was any kind of factor?

He is a very vague topic to discuss.

"Whites pay let's say, 70% of taxes - they should be benefitted by 70% of them. "

lmao

And where do you get that "fact"?

"I think it's great."

But would you go openly support rights for another race of people?



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Quote: from kidd rune at 12:17 pm on Nov. 19, 2008

Blacks should preserve their race, yes, but it's pretty plentiful as it is.
But is it unique and beautiful?

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Quote: from kidd rune at 12:48 pm on Nov. 18, 2008

Well, it all matters about what you think a "Nazi Fagot" is.
Do you really mean
 
"It depends"
or  
"it matters"?

They are not the same thing. You seem to use "it matters" in the wrong way all the time.  

It matters = It is important

Most of the time the way you use it it is a complete non sequitur.

Post edited at 10:41 pm on Nov. 19, 2008 by jakelong

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"Whites pay let's say, 70% of taxes - they should be benefitted by 70% of them. "
Rich people pay 90% of the tax so it should benefit 90% of rich people?

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Yes, but culture can be overtaken and they can be unable to successfully practice it.

And if there are no Whites around - how are they going to find one to have kids with?

Maybe people want to live with others LIKE them also.


No one is preventing you from practicing your culture - Jews have preserved theirs for thousands of years, even though they were a minority everywhere they went.
And who said there will be no whites? There is at least a billion of white people on this planet at the moment. That is a long way to go from extinction.


It already exists for the Jewish people - are you strongly opposed to it? It was created as a "national home for the Jewish people."
Why not have a "National home for Whites"?

Other people can live in Israel too.


Well, usually people don't like it when you walk in their house and sit there.

Oh great. Then get the f*ck out from Native American lands. And don't bother coming to Europe. That is Gallic and Roman territory. Roll back to Caucasus and India if you want.
What I'm trying to say that humans naturally migrate. And no one is stopping them from doing it. Back in the time USA was encouraging immigration. 'American dream'??
And who are you to claim it as 'your' house?


Umm, English is becoming a secondary language in my area. In a few years, I won't be able to speak to almost anyone without learning Spanish - which is forced assimilation.

They are FORCING me to become more like them, in more than just language.


No one is forcing you. You can always leave, remember?


But people many times don't change their culture - and people of other races can't be a part of your race to help preserve it.

No one is preventing you from preserving your culture. Just as I pointed out with the Jewish example.


Whites are losing their lands.
Central Florida, where I grew up, is over 70% Latin American here, many illegals.

Natural migrations. If you don't want to disappear, then procreate more.

I don't see any point in prolonging this argument. Unless you want to say something, I guess there is nothing left to talk about here.

Post edited at 3:00 am on Nov. 20, 2008 by JohnTheNormalOne

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Quote: from JohnTheNormalOne at 1:46 pm on Nov. 18, 2008

Quote: from Chava at 3:20 pm on Nov. 18, 2008

I see no reason to keep scum in the nations that are doing well. Such as the crack dealers, robbers, or any other miscreant that ends up with a criminal record. The world should have a country just for them. Entry to that country should mean that there are no passports to any other country and they can kill each other for the resources they need instead of killing people here for the hell of it. Not just any one race but anyone who decides to break the law past a few minor traffic violations.
 

You think that they are happy being criminals? It is poverty that leads them into criminal. And guess what is the reason of poverty: class system. So, I doubt that there can ever be a crime-less state, because there will probably always be poor and rich people. Unless all of the population was somehow brainwashed.


I'm not what you would consider rich. Hell I can't even afford another car since mine was totaled by some stupid illegal Somalian who couldn't drive. (Not being racist the wound's still fresh). Half the time I scrape money from a drawer to go buy diapers or milk. But I don't steal. I don't murder or rape or even drive over the speed limits most of the time. Poverty is a cop-out for being lazy. I mean it's easy to obtain things by stealing them or by force but when you actually have to work 2 jobs for something you really want or stick to a relationship for sex, things get a little more difficult. I don't think the people who commit crimes can actually stick to anything. That's why they resort to crime. Laziness.

For example I knew a lady named Angelia. She has two kids and lives in my old neighborhood which was income based. She never paid a cent because she got foodstamps, welfare check, and free rides to and from wherever she needed to be. She found a job. A good one at a law office filing paperwork (she was apparently in college for law). She quit within a month and when I asked her why she said "working just aint for me.". When these people who commit crime actually have an opportunity to get out of it they quit because they don't want to work hard for anything. Most of the people who make it well (upper middle class or above) work hard their entire lives and strike some chord or success within their late 30's.  

Another example. The people of China and Africa are by all means starving and poverty stricken. Crime rates there are lower than they are here. Now if your theory is correct and poverty breeds crime then why aren't the 3rd world nations at the top of the crime rates? Why is it the U.S., England, Canada and so forth? Like I said people who commit crime should be sent to their own little country where they can't harm anyone else.

I'd like to point out that the countries I am talking about are strictly the poverty stricken not any wrapped up in religious wars like Jihad or Genocide because no matter what a war-stricken country will have more crime and poverty. Ones that are just poverty stricken are the ones that have less crime.

Post edited at 8:04 am on Nov. 20, 2008 by Chava

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lol

You don't know anything about Israel's history.
The british didn't support israel at all.
In fact they regulated immigration to israel, and dumped most of the jews in israel into holding camps, which look remarkably like nazi work camps.
The rest of the jews they kept in places like cyprus for years and years.

The british mandate meant nothing.
They wanted to give the jewish people state after WW1 because the british jewish population helped fight against the turks.

http://www.planetware.com/i/map/ISR/british-mandate-1921-22-and-proposed-partition-1947-map.jpg

They were originally going to give this plot of land, which happens to include all of jordan. After WW2 they lost British support.

Zionists rebelled against the british, and declared themselves a country without anyone's previous support.
The USA openly supported them AFTER they were declared an independent country.

The league of nations resolution was never fulfilled.


Lol Jews.
Should've taken Madagascar when offered.


Yet its funny how so many of them are non-jews.
Why doesn't your country stop that?


You mean the one I told you WASN'T TRUE ON ANY TERMS?
Sure, why not.

But you can't truthfully say the Israelis were oh-so-kind to the palestinians.



Its funny how Russia was one of those countries which headed pogroms against the jews.

http://www.pbs.org/destinationamerica/usim_wn_noflash_6.html

It wasn't a jewish massacure against other people.
It was one leaders attack against other people.

If you can find me one thing that Kaganovich did FOR THE JEWS then I will read it.

You just like saying HE'S JEWISH HE'S JEWISH.
How do you know that was any kind of factor?

He is a very vague topic to discuss.


Russia had anti-Jewish programs due to them being pissed off when Jews communist-raped their country.

What did Kaganovich do FOR Jews? Well, he isn't really famous for anything but the death of 7-10million NON JEWISH Ukrainians.


lmao

And where do you get that "fact"?


Well, it would be ignorant to say that (non hispanic) Whites, being 66% of the population, get 66% of the money in welfare/food stamps/etc - when Whites are least likely of any race to get those government "Helpers."


But would you go openly support rights for another race of people?
Which rights? The rights to existence - yes. The rights to get jobs, college, and money BECAUSE of their race - hell no!


But is it unique and beautiful?
Sure, why not?


Do you really mean
 
"It depends"
or  
"it matters"?

They are not the same thing. You seem to use "it matters" in the wrong way all the time.  

It matters = It is important

Most of the time the way you use it it is a complete non sequitur.


Well, he still needs to tell me what he thinks a "Nazi Fagot" is.


Rich people pay 90% of the tax so it should benefit 90% of rich people?
If they pay 90% of the taxes - 90% of tax money should benefit them, yes (or in proportion to what they pay).

But, in my opinion, everyone should pay taxes - or trying to get a job.

If they don't - they shouldn't get any of the benefits.

When the rich throw all of their money in a pot and it gets distributed evenly (or moreso towards the poor) you are practicing communism.



No one is preventing you from practicing your culture - Jews have preserved theirs for thousands of years, even though they were a minority everywhere they went.



And who said there will be no whites? There is at least a billion of white people on this planet at the moment. That is a long way to go from extinction.
Insanity! There are not 1 billion Whites on this Earth - less than 8% of the population is White - and falling drastically.

Your one billion claim shows how little people know of this epidemic.

What about Nordics? Alpines? Meds? Baltics? Dinarics?

They're all subraces of the White race - and they are different too. They should also be preserved, Mediteranneans are almost extinct as it is.


Other people can live in Israel too.
Well then, they should fix that if they want an all-Jewish nation.

They don't? Well, their loss. Surprisingly, Jews are a very small amount of the world.

The difference is, one parent can be Jewish and the other not - and a Jewish child can come out. This isn't the same among races. One White parent can't create a White child - both must be White.


Oh great. Then get the f*ck out from Native American lands. And don't bother coming to Europe. That is Gallic and Roman territory. Roll back to Caucasus and India if you want.
What I'm trying to say that humans naturally migrate. And no one is stopping them from doing it. Back in the time USA was encouraging immigration. 'American dream'??
And who are you to claim it as 'your' house?

Europe isn't for Whites? I'm surprised!

India is home to Veddoid/Dravidic/Indic people - none of Which I am.

The Natural populations of Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Iceland, Britain, Wales, and the Netherlands are 100% Nordic.

Belgium follows with 95% Nordic and 5% Alpine, Luxembourg with 80% Alpine and 20% Nordic/Borreby. Germany is 80% Nordic with mixed Alpine and Dinaric.

There are many more, but these above countries have historically been White, and many being purely Nordic.

And Caucasians may have been the first Americans. Look up the Spirit Cave Mummy and Kennewick man.

Also, tell me what the Romans were - if they weren't White.

And who said I was speaking of the USA? Even though Whites bought off a lot of the land and traded much of it - the USA is a lost cause in my opinion - even though North America holds about 40% of the Nordic population, yet only held about 6% of the Amerind population when the Europeans arrived. (most of them resided in, and still reside in, South and Central America).


No one is forcing you. You can always leave, remember?
Where am I going to go with only Whites?


No one is preventing you from preserving your culture. Just as I pointed out with the Jewish example.
They are. If I can't get around with English - I have to learn Spanish.

That is a cultural change right there - and not the only one.

And what about race? People are stopping me from racial preservation.


Natural migrations. If you don't want to disappear, then procreate more.

I don't see any point in prolonging this argument. Unless you want to say something, I guess there is nothing left to talk about here.


I believe that Whites should be taught to not be afraid to stay in their race.
Whites shouldn't be taught as the people that are always racist.

Whites should be able to speak of race without saying "I'm not racist but..." before they speak.

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I can't believe people are so blind to the blatant genocide occuring right before our eyes.

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When a black mix with  white BOTH races are "destroyed" ==> Genocide of BOTH blacks and whites?  

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Quote: from jakelong at 8:26 pm on Nov. 20, 2008

When a black mix with white BOTH races are "destroyed" ==> Genocide of BOTH blacks and whites?
It's not genocide as it isn't mass murder - but, yes, the child is not Black or White - therefore one less potential Black or White child.

The only difference is Blacks are growing faster than any other people - and Whites aren't, their numbers are actually going DOWN (not just percentage wise, but total number wise).



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Quote: from kidd rune at 6:17 pm on Nov. 20, 2008

The only difference is Blacks are growing faster than any other people

Black population
13 percent of the total population
in 1999.
13 percent of the total population
in 2008

Oooh great rate of growth

Post edited at 6:51 pm on Nov. 20, 2008 by jakelong

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What's a Nazi Fagot? Keltic fighter is a Nazi Fagot, as are you kidd rune.

Any Nazi, neo or non is a Nazi Fagot. White Supremacists are Nazi Fagots. White Nationalists are Nazi Fagots. Members of the KKK are Nazi Fagots.

That's not to say there aren't other cultures that have racists. They just aren't Nazi Fagots.


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Quote: from I never forget at 2:05 am on Nov. 21, 2008

What's a Nazi Fagot? Keltic fighter is a Nazi Fagot, as are you kidd rune.

Any Nazi, neo or non is a Nazi Fagot. White Supremacists are Nazi Fagots. White Nationalists are Nazi Fagots. Members of the KKK are Nazi Fagots.

That's not to say there aren't other cultures that have racists. They just aren't Nazi Fagots.


LOL great stuff man!  

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Quote: from jakelong at 2:12 am on Nov. 21, 2008

Quote: from I never forget at 2:05 am on Nov. 21, 2008

What's a Nazi Fagot? Keltic fighter is a Nazi Fagot, as are you kidd rune.  

 Any Nazi, neo or non is a Nazi Fagot. White Supremacists are Nazi Fagots. White Nationalists are Nazi Fagots. Members of the KKK are Nazi Fagots.  

 That's not to say there aren't other cultures that have racists. They just aren't Nazi Fagots.


LOL great stuff man!  

There's a couple handfuls of Nazi Fagots at my school. They're all shaft and no balls though.


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Black population
13 percent of the total population
in 1999.
13 percent of the total population
in 2008

Oooh great rate of growth


Good thing you're speaking of the USA only!

Here's the worldwide stats:
From 2010-2060, Blacks will increase their population by 1.2 billion, while Whites will actually shrink in number.

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